Short debate re: Hobby Lobby

The above is the original post.

My response:

Not true at all. Most likely Christians would rise to support the position and solidarity would be reached as doctrines of man would be breeched. This is more garbage propaganda designed to fuel division. Also, this nation is not a democracy it is a constitutional republic. Rights are not vote able issues. The founding documents that certify the foundational principles, on which this nation began and still rests, recognize God the creator as the issuer of rights not man.

Response to my response from a woman named Merrill Aldighieri

Poppycock! The USA is a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. Notice the 2 words in tandem, DEMOCRATIC & REPUBLIC. I wish you extremests would stop trying to distance the word "DEMOCRATIC" from what we are...in a feeble attempt to make a fast track for what you really want, a theocracy. Learn to comprehend and respect what Thomas Jefferson expained about the wall of separation between church and state and you will help heal this needless attack of women's rights.

My Re-response:

It is written, “Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.”

A constitutional republic is a state in which the head of state and other officials are representatives of the people. They must govern to existing constitution.

In a constitutional republic, executive, legislative, and judicial powers can be separated into distinct branches.[1]

That a constitution exists that limits the government's power makes the state constitutional. That the head(s) of state and other officials are chosen by election, rather than inheriting their positions, makes the state a republic. The USA is a Constitutional Republic.

Source: Wikipedia.com: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic

A Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

A Constitutional Republic is the current form of government in the United States. However in recent years, many people have criticized the federal government for moving away from a Constitutional Republic, as defined by the Constitution, and towards a pure democracy.

Source: Conservapedia.com: http://conservapedia.com/Constitutional_Republic


          In a Constitutional Republic such as ours the cornerstone of the foundation rests on the belief of an almighty God, our Creator and that it is He who grants us unalienable rights. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Because of this cornerstone our rights remain secure because it is God who grants rights not man and since man cannot be God man cannot control this process or usurp God’s authority.

Here are a few rulings from the Supreme Court of The United States of America that help support this position.

"There, every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent." CRUDEN v NEALE, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70.

"The rights of the individuals are restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government." City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944

"An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed." Norton v. Shelby County 118 US 425 p. 442

"Waivers of constitutional rights not only must be voluntary, but must be knowing, intelligent acts done with sufficient awareness of the relevant circumstances and likely consequences." Brady v U.S., 397 US 742, 90 S. Ct. Rptr. at page 1469.

"When rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them." Miranda ~vs~ Arizona, 384 US 436 p. 491.


"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." Marbury ~vs~ Madison, 5 US (1 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)

          The separation of church and state statement is found in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut then was later published in a Massachusetts news paper, on January 1, 1802. The correspondence from Mr. Jefferson had nothing to do with insulating government from receiving a moral compass from the Christian roots of which it was obviously founded upon as evidenced in the Declaration of independence and the Constitution of the United states of America, but it had everything to do with barring government from establishing a ruling central church as was the case in England with the Roman Catholic Church. This standing was translated into the writing of the first amendment of the constitution of the United States of America. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..."

          I ask you simply. How can you honestly stand so firm in such an obvious state of ignorance? How can you be ok with propagating deceptive propaganda? Do you really believe it is the right of women to burden society with the fallout of their immoral transgressions?

          One of the first gifts God gave us was free will, in light of that I guess you can argue that it is your right as a woman to spreads your legs for whom ever, where ever and whenever you want. I guess you could further argue that it is your right to exercise free will in that if the result of your sleeping around produced an unwanted child you could rid yourself of that burden by committing murder, yes I said murder, in fact, you know the risks of such activity so any woman who engages in such activity and uses the procedure of abortion as a safety net is, in truth, premeditating murder. And please don’t try to argue at what degree of development constitutes life. Any biologist can tell you that the individual cells were living independently before they even joined. No person not one has the right to force any other to pay for their transgressions and no person can be made to be obligated to go against their beliefs. No follower of Christ Jesus can be made to go against the will of God for it is written “We must obey God Not man” no matter how loud or how often you shout your deceptive rhetoric. In the name of Christ Jesus I bind you Merrill Aldighieri, be silent you may no longer write and speak your lies and deceptions.

Love Thy Neighbor

When it comes to immoral behavior loving thy neighbor certainly does not validate enabling thy neighbor.

 John said of Jesus, “He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked”. Jesus never condoned or enabled immoral unnatural behaviors. It was by a great Love for the Father and for His people that Christ Jesus worked aggressively, sometimes gently and sometimes harshly, in order to deliver people from sin and unclean spirits that would otherwise prevent them from an eternity in Him. Jesus had no fear of offending unclean spirits or the people that held on to them as He preached repentance for the remission of sin. “Go and Sin NO more” This is, in part, the very same commission he gave those who believe in Him. Jesus would never participate in nor condone the celebration of sin by the sinners. He would never stand on the sidelines cheering them on as if to portray approval of their activities and celebrations. One of the last instructions Jesus gave to those who would follow Him was to preach repentance and remission of sins in His name, among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Luke 24:47.

 Part of loving thy neighbor is loving them enough to rise above fear of retribution and speak truth into their lives, especially when eternity is at stake, but know this, not everyone wants to receive the good news of the gospel of our Lord. Not everyone likes God. Do not water down His gospel or change who He is in an attempt to make Him more palatable and appealing to the world. If they don’t want to hear it, move on.

Jesus did not come to change God to suit the flesh. One of the instructions He gave to his disciples regarding this was “And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. Luke 9:5.  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Matt 10:14.

Paul, by an revelation of Christ Jesus taught, “And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient”. Romans 1:27-28

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.  Eph 5:11 

We need NO new King

Here in America, just as our founders intended, we do not want nor do we need a King, we already have one and He is irreplaceable. He is the King most high, the almighty God.

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

This is the preamble to the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America. Our founders declared our Nations “Independence” from the Crown of England on July 4^th 1776. The preamble is basically saying that sometimes in life people have to do away with restrictions, policies and authorities that they have once agreed to live under and reclaim the power, liberty and life that is given to them naturally under God and His laws. Further, that when this is done it is respectful to tell others why they are doing it. 

The Declaration simply informed the King of England that the then 13 colonies, now self proclaimed to be the united States of America, a new Nation, and were no longer recognizing his authority and were from then on Independently governing themselves under God and His laws. They then went on to list the reasons why.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”

--“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,”

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

Here in America, just as our founders intended, we do not want nor do we need a King, we already have one and He is irreplaceable. He is the King most high, the almighty God, the great I AM. It is Him we listen to, by His Holy Spirit we are led and the teachings of His Son our Lord and savior Christ Jesus. There was a time in Israel when the people were submitted to God. They enjoyed the blessings of His protection and prosperity while they lived in liberty under His laws. After a certain chain of events the people decided that they wanted a King to be like all other Nations. God saw this as the people of Israel turning their faces from Him and He sent His prophet Samuel to warn them of what they were going to face because of this. This is what He Said,

“And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.  According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.  Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.  And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.  And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.  And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.  And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.  And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.  And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.  And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.  He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.  And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.

1 Sam 8:7-18 (KJV)

Do not be deceived, do not settle. Declare your independence through the rule of the most high King, The king of Abraham. Isaac, Jacob and Moses, “I AM”, your creator.

The Declaration of Independence: A Transcriptin

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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton
John Witherspoon
Francis Hopkinson
John Hart
Abraham Clark
New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett
William Whipple
Massachusetts:
Samuel Adams
John Adams
Robert Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins
William Ellery
Connecticut:
Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
William Williams
Oliver Wolcott
New Hampshire:
Matthew Thornton
Benjamin Harrison
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton
Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benjamin Franklin
John Morton
George Clymer
James Smith
George Taylor
James Wilson
George Ross
Delaware:
Caesar Rodney
George Read
Thomas McKean
New York:
William Floyd
Philip Livingston
Francis Lewis
Lewis Morris
Georgia:
Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
George Walton
North Carolina:
William Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn
South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Arthur Middleton
Massachusetts:
John Hancock
Maryland:
Samuel Chase
William Paca
Thomas Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia:
George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee